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>From: Joachim Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Scientology
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:12:02 -0500
>I'm with you on this one Grant. Some people seem to view memes like gods or
>intelligent beings from another planet. This in my opinion is humbug. By
>the way I like your approach to use this list as a way to test your own
>theory. I did not understand that some objected to this. I think its great,
>and shows that you want to think on your own.
>At 07:54 AM 1/21/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>>We're born into a world already
>>>chalk full of ideas, all of which want to seduce us and propagate in our
>>I don't believe ideas "want" to do anything. It's like saying gold and
>>silver "want" to become money. The way people react to these things can
>>be good or bad, but that is not the fault of the gold or silver. It's
>>what people use them for that makes them anything other than the dirt
>>under our feet. Ideas are the same. They just lie there and wait for
>>people to pick them up. What people do with them is a function of each
>>person rather than the idea itself.
It's possible that the relationship between people and ideas is a two-way
street. People can influence ideas and ideas can influence people. There are
times when a particular idea can become a puppetmaster, but OTOH people can
also hold the reins on ideas or actively mold them instead of solely being
passively molded by the ideas.
I think its a good idea to use the word idea.
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