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> "Philip Jonkers" <PHILIPJONKERS@prodigy.net> Re: Sensory and sensibilityReply-To: email@example.com
>>Making sounds that sound like words and using words
>are not the same thin=
>>When I beat my chest I am not communicating with
>gorillas. Birds can be=20
>>taught to repeat certain sounds to please their
>trainers, but I seriously=
>>doubt they are consciously communicating meaning with
>their sounds. They=
>>have just learned that making some sounds will cause
>people to reward the=
>>with food or attention. I don't believe they are
>really "saying" anythin=
>Pavlov has shown in the early 1900s that you can
>condition animals to associate behavior with certain
>human cues: the famous rinkle-bell-for-dinner-dog
>experiment. If you have conditioned a kennel of
>dependent dogs that way and you rinkle the bell
>at dinner time, the dogs will perk up and expect
>food by starting drewling.
>Ergo, this is a typical example of
>communication (albeit interspecific).
In fact, in a sadistic experiment that will probably never be repeated on ethical grounds, it was proven that animals can be conditioned to respond positively to negative stimuli, by feeding them after burning them. Dogs would salivate after having a flaring match touched to their noses.
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