Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id GAA08474 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Sun, 20 Jan 2002 06:33:08 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:28:45 -0800 Message-Id: <200201200628.g0K6Sjk27910@mail17.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [18.104.22.168] From: "Joe Dees" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
>Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:02:17 -0500
> email@example.com Keith Henson <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionReply-To: email@example.com
>At 08:41 PM 19/01/02 -0800, "Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>I think that as long as exclusivist patriarchal monotheisms that are
>>manipulable by fanatics (largely on the basis of what is indeed written in
>>their holy books) to inspire holy murder inhere in this world and command
>>power over the affairs of nations and sway over the minds of the
>>fundamentalist faithful, we will be stuck with a bloody memetic problem.
>I think the situation is that bad and even worse because I don't think much
>progress is going to be made before memetics and the evolved reward
>pathways memes use are understood well enough to make concrete proposals
>about how to deal with the problems. It might well be that we need to
>create a better religion (or something) specifically designed to replace
>the nasty elements of that culture.
>It also could be that secular memes of tolerance of the west are already
>doing that and they just need to be pushed along a bit. A lot could happen
>I bet with some small scale funding of people with more moderate ideas.
The Church of Virus is indeed attempting to memetically engineer a religion that paradoxically values logic, rationality, the scientific method and provisional evidence-grounded knowledge over blind faith and dogmatic belief. Their 'patron saint' is Charles Darwin.
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