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At 08:41 PM 19/01/02 -0800, "Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>I think that as long as exclusivist patriarchal monotheisms that are
>manipulable by fanatics (largely on the basis of what is indeed written in
>their holy books) to inspire holy murder inhere in this world and command
>power over the affairs of nations and sway over the minds of the
>fundamentalist faithful, we will be stuck with a bloody memetic problem.
I think the situation is that bad and even worse because I don't think much
progress is going to be made before memetics and the evolved reward
pathways memes use are understood well enough to make concrete proposals
about how to deal with the problems. It might well be that we need to
create a better religion (or something) specifically designed to replace
the nasty elements of that culture.
It also could be that secular memes of tolerance of the west are already
doing that and they just need to be pushed along a bit. A lot could happen
I bet with some small scale funding of people with more moderate ideas.
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