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At 11:06 PM 1/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Salice wrote
> >Is the 'self' required for memetic processes?
And you replied
>It is necessary for communication by means of a commonly understood,
>created and arbitrary language (as opposed to instinctual calls).
Doesn't the fact that animals can dream mean that they have a self? I have
less objections to your term 'self-awareness' even though I'm not fond of
it either. In any case Irene Maxine Pepperberg's work with parrots
demonstrates that these animals are capable of using words if properly trained.
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