Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id GAA05438 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:40:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [220.127.116.11] From: "Scott Chase" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Why memeoids? Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:35:45 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F170ZuNY1SWoBDyseVw0000caec@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2002 06:35:45.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[8665E760:01C1A0B3] Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>From: Keith Henson <email@example.com>
>Subject: RE: Why memeoids?
>Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:00:34 -0500
>At 09:55 PM 18/01/02 -0500, "Scott Chase" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>Especially if appeasement of the "other" involves getting rid of the
>>things they despise about us, such as our secularist notions of government
>>and law. They would probably dislike us less if we were a theocracy (ie-
>>people of the book...the law stemming from that book) and an Islamic
>>theocracy at that. Rabid anti-Semitism might get us more brownie points.
>>OTOH might Turkey be a possible model state for secular government
>>juxtaposed with Islamic beliefs of the general populace?
>I have speculated for years about how likely Turkey is to get into the kind
>of mess Iran went into.
Does Turkey have that much potential for instability? Is there a cauldron of
fundamendalism bubbling within poised to overthrow the gov't there?
I was hoping Turkey might represent the prototype for the modern state (as
separated from the mosque), which just happens to have a predominately
Muslim population. There's even a smidgen of what we call democracy there
too, isn't there? That's not quite what Iran had under the shah, previous to
From what I gather Turkey's not without its warts, especially considering
controversies over the Kurds.
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