RE: Why memeoids?

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Date: Sat Jan 19 2002 - 06:35:45 GMT

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    >From: Keith Henson <>
    >Subject: RE: Why memeoids?
    >Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:00:34 -0500
    >At 09:55 PM 18/01/02 -0500, "Scott Chase" <>
    > wrote:
    >>Especially if appeasement of the "other" involves getting rid of the
    >>things they despise about us, such as our secularist notions of government
    >>and law. They would probably dislike us less if we were a theocracy (ie-
    >>people of the book...the law stemming from that book) and an Islamic
    >>theocracy at that. Rabid anti-Semitism might get us more brownie points.
    >>OTOH might Turkey be a possible model state for secular government
    >>juxtaposed with Islamic beliefs of the general populace?
    >I have speculated for years about how likely Turkey is to get into the kind
    >of mess Iran went into.
    Does Turkey have that much potential for instability? Is there a cauldron of
    fundamendalism bubbling within poised to overthrow the gov't there?

    I was hoping Turkey might represent the prototype for the modern state (as
    separated from the mosque), which just happens to have a predominately
    Muslim population. There's even a smidgen of what we call democracy there
    too, isn't there? That's not quite what Iran had under the shah, previous to
    their revolution.

    From what I gather Turkey's not without its warts, especially considering
    controversies over the Kurds.

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