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From: "Wade T. Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "Memetics Discussion List" <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception
>Hi Grant Callaghan -
>>You seem to be saying the act of the jazz player by
itself is the
>>I say it's the idea he was striving to express.
>What if, upon cross-examination, he were to say he
had no idea what he
>was doing? Or, if he were to say he had an idea, but
failed to express
>it? Or, if he were to say he was following a preset
pattern of altering
Pattern or no pattern, conscious or not conscious,
intentional or not intentional. If that which is
created by one meme-host can be transmitted to
another, it is memetic by definition.
You may find this point of view extreme.
And I admit it is, but it avoids a lot of what
I consider unnecessary quibbles.
You may say therefore, that I am in the memes-are-
everywhere camp: in brains (though undetectable and
latent), behavior, in meaning, artifacts... the
works. Anything cultural qualifies as meme, provided
transmittable (this addition even seems
tautological to me).
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