Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id DAA27662 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2002 03:14:41 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:10:14 -0800 Message-Id: <200201170310.g0H3AEN29208@mail13.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [18.104.22.168] From: "Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Do all memes die out or evolve? I think not. Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
>Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:23:58 -0500
> firstname.lastname@example.org "Francesca S. Alcorn" <email@example.com> Re: Do all memes die out or evolve? I think not.Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>> >But now I have a question. If two identical memes arise in two
>>>completely different environments, are they the same meme?
>>Or to reword the question, is the context-free meme simpliciter
>>definitional, or is it instead the relationship between the meme and
>>its gestalt context that defines the meme? Or is it an either-or?
>My inclination on this is the first one. I don't know a lot about
>genetics but it seems that genes can influence how other genes are
>expressed. That doesn't mean that the chemical structure of the gene
>itself has changed, only it's expression is modified. I think of
>memes in the same way: context may influence the expression of
>certain memes, but the memes themselves remain the same. Like my
>example of intolerance in an earlier post. There may be memes of
>non-violence, or freedom of expression etc which may inhibit the
>expression of the meme of intolerance in violent ways. Other memes
>may actually encourage violence (belief in an afterlife). Certain
>meme combinations are particularly volatile.
Yeah, understanding the "die killing infidels and get a free pass to heaven" meme does not motivate you to do so if you also possess and accept the "religious pronouncements are not to be taken literally" meme.
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