Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA27410 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:15:37 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:11:06 -0800 Message-Id: <200201170111.g0H1B6Q28787@mail14.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [126.96.36.199] From: "Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Subject: RE: Modes of transmission Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
>Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:38:10 -0500
> firstname.lastname@example.org Ray Recchia <email@example.com> RE: Modes of transmissionReply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>> > "Lawrence DeBivort" <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE:
>> Modes of transmissionDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:07:53 -0500
>> >Reply-To: email@example.com
>> >Hi, Joe -- I'm not sure what you are 'refuting.' Are you saying that the
>> >categories you are proposing on don't have sensory and brain-functional
>> >> >In designing memes, we specify the means of transmission to be
>> >> used, and, as
>> >> >a subset of this, which sensory channel(s) will be used. These correspond
>> >> >generally to your four categories, Joe: auditory-tonal, auditory-digital
>> >> >(e.g. words, phrases), visual, kinesthetic (touch/emotional feeling),
>> >> >gustatory (taste), and olefactory (smell).
>> >> >
>> >> >If the content of the meme is demonstrated (your 'show'?), several of the
>> >> >sensory channels can be involved.
>> >> >
>> >> >Lawrence
>> >> >
>> >> One comment to refute this: ASL (American Sign Language) is
>> >> communicated visually, verbal discourse is communicated
>> >> auditorily, and braille is communicated tactilely. All are
>> >> categorized under the communication mode, telling or saying.
>>I am refuting the fallacious notion that methods of transmission
>>correspond to, and can be mapped onto, modes of perception in a one-to-one
>I agree. I think maybe a better term to use for some of these methods is
>"linguistic". They all use words in one form or another to replicate
>information by written word, signing or whatever. They reflect a mental
>capacity for language that is independent of the actual sense that is used.
>After a bit of reflection but I would suggest the following categories.
> Spoken language
> Sign language
> Recorded -
> Non-directed (the pure imitation category)
> Descriptive (non-linguistic demonstration)
> primary - (where an artifact's existence transmits the
>meme for its own creation)
> secondary - (where an artifact conveys transmits a meme
>for something other than its own creation)
>There must be some field of academic study that has done this sort of
>categorization before though.
The difference between spoken and sign language is how they are transmitted and received; i.e. through auditory and visual production/reception. This being the case, if both are mentioned, then braille should be given a transmission method category separate from print, as it is read by touch, not sight.
However, I do not think that such is necessary; I see linguistic dynamic as a single transmission method category, and linguistic frozen as another single transmission method category. These categories may then be subdivided into perceptual modes.
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