RE: Modes of transmission

From: Joe Dees (
Date: Thu Jan 17 2002 - 01:11:06 GMT

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    >Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:38:10 -0500
    > Ray Recchia <> RE: Modes of transmissionReply-To:
    >Hey Joe:
    >> > "Lawrence DeBivort" <> <> RE:
    >> Modes of transmissionDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:07:53 -0500
    >> >Reply-To:
    >> >
    >> >Hi, Joe -- I'm not sure what you are 'refuting.' Are you saying that the
    >> >categories you are proposing on don't have sensory and brain-functional
    >> >correlates?
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >> >In designing memes, we specify the means of transmission to be
    >> >> used, and, as
    >> >> >a subset of this, which sensory channel(s) will be used. These correspond
    >> >> >generally to your four categories, Joe: auditory-tonal, auditory-digital
    >> >> >(e.g. words, phrases), visual, kinesthetic (touch/emotional feeling),
    >> >> >gustatory (taste), and olefactory (smell).
    >> >> >
    >> >> >If the content of the meme is demonstrated (your 'show'?), several of the
    >> >> >sensory channels can be involved.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Lawrence
    >> >> >
    >> >> One comment to refute this: ASL (American Sign Language) is
    >> >> communicated visually, verbal discourse is communicated
    >> >> auditorily, and braille is communicated tactilely. All are
    >> >> categorized under the communication mode, telling or saying.
    >> >
    >>I am refuting the fallacious notion that methods of transmission
    >>correspond to, and can be mapped onto, modes of perception in a one-to-one
    >> >
    >I agree. I think maybe a better term to use for some of these methods is
    >"linguistic". They all use words in one form or another to replicate
    >information by written word, signing or whatever. They reflect a mental
    >capacity for language that is independent of the actual sense that is used.
    >After a bit of reflection but I would suggest the following categories.
    >Linguistic -
    > Immediate
    > Spoken language
    > Sign language
    > Recorded
    > Written
    > Recorded -
    > Behavior
    > Non-directed (the pure imitation category)
    > Descriptive (non-linguistic demonstration)
    > Artifact
    > primary - (where an artifact's existence transmits the
    >meme for its own creation)
    > secondary - (where an artifact conveys transmits a meme
    >for something other than its own creation)
    >There must be some field of academic study that has done this sort of
    >categorization before though.
    >Ray Recchia
    The difference between spoken and sign language is how they are transmitted and received; i.e. through auditory and visual production/reception. This being the case, if both are mentioned, then braille should be given a transmission method category separate from print, as it is read by touch, not sight.
    However, I do not think that such is necessary; I see linguistic dynamic as a single transmission method category, and linguistic frozen as another single transmission method category. These categories may then be subdivided into perceptual modes.
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