A Confusing Example

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2002 - 06:08:26 GMT

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    ('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is) Interesting question...

    What would you call it when the source sets up a scenario where the target
    cannot help but to reach the desired conclusion (the meme) by observing the
    surroundings you have created? There is no direct communication, but there
    is still a deliberate transferrence.

    Brief example: A's roommate B is a slob. A has already shown, told, written
    and pictured to no avail in an attempt to transfer his/her "cleanliness is
    good" meme. Finally A takes all of B's most useful and/or treasured
    belongings and hides them in the lowest strata of the debris. B comes home,
    can't find his shit, and realizes that it's because there is no order to the
    arrangement of his belongings, and decides of his own accord (in his
    perspective) that "cleanliness is good, because then I can find my

    I'm not sure that this qualifies as meme transference in your model, but my
    instinct is that it should. (The meme has, after all, been transferred). If
    it does qualify, what would you call that? Assisted Discovery?


    What do y'all make of this example? I'm unsure how to characterize it.
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    Subject: virus: Modes of Transmission

    On the memetics list, we have come up with four modes of memetic

    1) Showing - a bodily demonstration, such as knapping a handaxe for
    an audience.

    2) Telling - verbally or manually (signing) communicating via a common
    symbol system.

    3) Writing - inscribing glyphs which stand for spoken/signed language.

    4) Picturing - creating a representation of the object of communication
    via drawing, photography, etc.

    Can anyone here think of others?

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