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>>What is translated is meaning or a mentally based meme.
>Which is it- a meaning, or a mentally based meme?
>What is the real argument against making the meme the cultural expression
>itself? Does the word really have to mean several different things in
>several different locations?
>Is a single, indisputably identical meaning really encoded and understood
>in vastly different behaviors?
>>A memetics that is
>>incapable of looking examining and recognizing the similarities between
>>differently worded written statements, statements made in different
>>languages, and written statements and spoken words is of limited
>This statement baffles me. At no time did I maintain that recognizing
>similarities was verboten, and at no time do I think that a behavior only
>meme avoids these language-based situations. Indeed, since language is a
>tool of expression, it is mandatory to examine it very carefully.
Let's look at the meme for dancing. We have conceptions of what it means to dance, we can communicate to each other via a variety of modes the invitation to dance, and we can dance (at least, some of is). The behavior is the EXPRESSION of the meme, the invitation is the COMMUNICATION of the meme, and the conception IS the meme.
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