RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception

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    >From: Jeremy Bradley <>
    >Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception
    >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:27:01 +1100
    >At 08:24 AM 11/01/02 -0800, You wrote:
    > ><<It's not the memes you have to worry about, it's the people who use
    > >them.>>
    > >Richard then replied
    > >So we don't have to worry about Muslim children being taught that the
    > >highest goal in life is to kill themselves in an attack on Americans?
    > >
    >No Richard
    >We must concern ourselves with them as much as the usanian children who are
    >taught that 'terrorists' (non US ones that is) are all mindless evil
    >cowards who deserve to die.
    >These are both erroneous cultural constructions which may threaten the
    >survival of our species. IF we have evolved, surely we should avert both
    >threats and not just suppress one as irrelevant.
    I'm not sure what you're implying with the "IF we have evolved..." bit. What
    does "evolved" mean to you in the way you're (mis?)using the word? Is there
    a hint of progress and/or morality in your meaning?

    BTW, evolution 'is a heritable change in a population over time' though some
    may prefer 'change in allelic frequencies of a population over time'. I
    don't see how either rough definition connects to the way you're using the
    word "evolved". Even Futuyma's (cite below, p. 4) "change in the properties
    of populations of organisms, or groups of such populations, over the course
    of generations" doesn't seem to correspond with what you're saying.

    Futuyma, D. 1998. Evolutionary Biology. Sinauer Associates, Inc. Sunderland,

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