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>>On this touchy subject I would observe that it is
>not "the highest goal in
>>life is to kill yourself in an attack on Americans"
>which is the meme. For
>>me, martyrdom is the effect of the "going to heaven
>is good" meme.
>I beg the differ according to that point of view, all
>people who commit suicide qualify to become martyrs
>too. Moreover, all people who die a natural death
>may be regarded as martyrs too. This stance
>makes the concept of martyrdom impotent and
>The first alternative sounds more appealing though.
When I was getting my religious instruction, suicide was a sin; no heaven.
However, in Islam, as was the case with Japanese Kamikaze pilots, killing
ones self under religious instruction guarantees a place in heaven. I think
that those Christians who went to Palestine in the crusades were told the
As for "natural death", get real.
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