RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception

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    For a trenchant critique of the constructed myths embodied in Edward Said's work ORIENTALISM, go to:

    > Vincent Campbell <> "''" <> RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionDate: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:17:05 -0000
    >Hi Keith,
    > <I think in a post analysis the real competition will be seen as
    >> "western" culture and everything else. "Western" in this sense includes
    >> Japan and the advanced countries of south Asia as well as the more
    >> traditional countries. Japan, for example, contributes significant
    >> cultural elements to the rest of "Western" culture. "Popular" is another
    >> name for it. Religion is not a major element.>
    > If only the last sentence were true.
    > <It's hard to describe all the major elements, but music, fashion,
    >> and TV shows are parts of it. High tech gadgets are part of it, and to a
    >> lesser extent, the free market environment it takes to make them. (No way
    >> you can do a 5 year plan to produce things nobody has invented yet!)
    >> Near as I can tell nobody in power cares if western/popular culture pushes
    >> into Islamic culture and displaces it or not. Because it is not static,
    >> the older leaders of the western countries usually express disdain for
    >> their own popular culture. Can't blame them, piercings give me
    >> fantods. (Meme of the day, nipple rings and chain mail is a bad
    >> combination.)>
    > Try reading Edward Said's book 'Orientalism'. You'll see there
    >evidence of a huge amount of cultural, political, economic and so on
    >investment in appropriating, containing and controlling oriental culture.
    >Who does the European Union regard as a threat socially? The East,
    >particularly the Islamic East- look at the reticence of the EU to take
    >Turkey's application for membership seriously. What gets Americans cross?
    >When Japanese companies start buying up US ones.
    > Vincent
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