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From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
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Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Fw: CRASH CONTAGION
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> To: memetics <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:49 PM
> Subject: Fw: CRASH CONTAGION
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Keith Henson <email@example.com>
> > > > People *often* die in heroic acts. And it make no difference if
> > I
> > > > think he was doing something stupid, what is important to understand
> > > > actions from an evolutionary psychology viewpoint is how he felt
> > it.
> > >
> > > Hi Keith, sorry for the delay. Got a lot to do and still there is more
> > > waiting,
> > > anyway, what you wrote above and can agree with. That is exactly the
> > > main point ! All the rest is due to speculation.
> > >
> > > > >Obtaining attention and a wife were not the boys
> > > > >motives to crash a plane in a building !
> > > > I disagree. A substantial fraction of what people do is directed
> > > > gaining status. Those actions led directly to reproductive success
> > (most
> > > > of the time and in a tribal environment).
> > >
> > > << Yes, of course, but such assumption can' t be applied here !
> > > What did the boy exept !? To live and tell about it !?
> > > To get a wife and tell his children and grandchildren about his heroic
> > > exploits !?
> > > To get any reproductive success out of killing himself !?
> > > Status seems logical to me, he, maybe earned a footnote in history,
> > that
> > > will be all.
> > >
> > > > >Setting fire to a nearby wood would not have giving the same impact
> > > > >than crashing a plane in a building !
> > > > >Teens imitate teens, remerber ! Nurture by the kin- group is far
> > > > >important than the teaching of the eldery, parents, bin Laden or
> > > > >wise !
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but the note found on him was clear about bin Laden.
> > >
> > > << Yes, to give himself the credit of having an attitude, to give any
> > > meaning
> > > of importance, to make a ' statement ' ! But what is the real meaning
> > > such writings !? Kids do, and say the darnest things. I do understand
> > that,
> > > we the eldery, do not listen to what kids have to say, we don 't see
> > > cries
> > > for help which kids throw at us, but on the other hand, and that is my
> > view,
> > > some cries are indeed very real, are legitimate, but don 't throw away
> > > child out of the kid !! Some kids do stupid things, but there is no
> > > to look for deeper meanings. We think we have to, to understand the
> > > and that is maybe our mistake !!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kenneth
> > >
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