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> From: Keith Henson <email@example.com>
> > People *often* die in heroic acts. And it make no difference if you or
> > think he was doing something stupid, what is important to understand his
> > actions from an evolutionary psychology viewpoint is how he felt about
> Hi Keith, sorry for the delay. Got a lot to do and still there is more
> anyway, what you wrote above and can agree with. That is exactly the
> main point ! All the rest is due to speculation.
> > >Obtaining attention and a wife were not the boys
> > >motives to crash a plane in a building !
> > I disagree. A substantial fraction of what people do is directed toward
> > gaining status. Those actions led directly to reproductive success
> > of the time and in a tribal environment).
> << Yes, of course, but such assumption can' t be applied here !
> What did the boy exept !? To live and tell about it !?
> To get a wife and tell his children and grandchildren about his heroic
> exploits !?
> To get any reproductive success out of killing himself !?
> Status seems logical to me, he, maybe earned a footnote in history, but
> will be all.
> > >Setting fire to a nearby wood would not have giving the same impact
> > >than crashing a plane in a building !
> > >Teens imitate teens, remerber ! Nurture by the kin- group is far more
> > >important than the teaching of the eldery, parents, bin Laden or other-
> > >wise !
> > Maybe, but the note found on him was clear about bin Laden.
> << Yes, to give himself the credit of having an attitude, to give any
> of importance, to make a ' statement ' ! But what is the real meaning of
> such writings !? Kids do, and say the darnest things. I do understand
> we the eldery, do not listen to what kids have to say, we don 't see the
> for help which kids throw at us, but on the other hand, and that is my
> some cries are indeed very real, are legitimate, but don 't throw away the
> child out of the kid !! Some kids do stupid things, but there is no reason
> to look for deeper meanings. We think we have to, to understand the kids,
> and that is maybe our mistake !!
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