From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Sun Jan 13 2002 - 11:49:14 GMT

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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Keith Henson <hkhenson@cogeco.ca>
    > > People *often* die in heroic acts. And it make no difference if you or
    > > think he was doing something stupid, what is important to understand his
    > > actions from an evolutionary psychology viewpoint is how he felt about
    > Hi Keith, sorry for the delay. Got a lot to do and still there is more
    > waiting,
    > anyway, what you wrote above and can agree with. That is exactly the
    > main point ! All the rest is due to speculation.
    > > >Obtaining attention and a wife were not the boys
    > > >motives to crash a plane in a building !
    > > I disagree. A substantial fraction of what people do is directed toward
    > > gaining status. Those actions led directly to reproductive success
    > > of the time and in a tribal environment).
    > << Yes, of course, but such assumption can' t be applied here !
    > What did the boy exept !? To live and tell about it !?
    > To get a wife and tell his children and grandchildren about his heroic
    > exploits !?
    > To get any reproductive success out of killing himself !?
    > Status seems logical to me, he, maybe earned a footnote in history, but
    > will be all.
    > > >Setting fire to a nearby wood would not have giving the same impact
    > > >than crashing a plane in a building !
    > > >Teens imitate teens, remerber ! Nurture by the kin- group is far more
    > > >important than the teaching of the eldery, parents, bin Laden or other-
    > > >wise !
    > >
    > > Maybe, but the note found on him was clear about bin Laden.
    > << Yes, to give himself the credit of having an attitude, to give any
    > meaning
    > of importance, to make a ' statement ' ! But what is the real meaning of
    > such writings !? Kids do, and say the darnest things. I do understand
    > we the eldery, do not listen to what kids have to say, we don 't see the
    > cries
    > for help which kids throw at us, but on the other hand, and that is my
    > some cries are indeed very real, are legitimate, but don 't throw away the
    > child out of the kid !! Some kids do stupid things, but there is no reason
    > to look for deeper meanings. We think we have to, to understand the kids,
    > and that is maybe our mistake !!
    > Regards,
    > Kenneth

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