Re: playing at suicide

From: Grant Callaghan (
Date: Thu Jan 10 2002 - 02:57:05 GMT

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    >On Wednesday, January 9, 2002, at 03:38 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
    >>If the baby didn't know it had the need, it wouldn't be able to
    >>express it.
    >Interesting take on instinctual responses. It certainly is able
    >to 'express' pain with a scream, as you are.
    >But, what do you know?
    >And, what do you need that you screamed?
    >I see a real difference between someone wanting, say, a new
    >iMac, and a baby crying because its hungry.
    >>She knows because the baby communicated the want or need to her.
    >Is this response, crying, really a communication?
    >- Wade
    If you think a cry of pain is not a meme of communication, consider this --
    in America we say "ouch" or "ow" when we feel pain. In Japan, they say
    "itai!" or "itai-o!" In China, they say "ai-o" and in the Philippines the
    say "apo!" or "apo-da!" In other words, in each culture they found a
    different way to express pain. You'd think an instinctual response would
    elicit a more uniform way of expressing itself.


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