RE: conditional support for war on Iraq

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    >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <>
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    >Subject: RE: conditional support for war on Iraq
    >Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:52:04 -0500
    >And after Iraq, who do you not like next?
    After we help the Iraqi people establish a more friendly gov't you mean?
    It's Hussein and his regime which are the problem, not the Iraqi people.
    I have no animosity towards Pakistan, even if the ISI had any Taliban
    connection or regardless of whether their madrassas were recruiting grounds.
    I hope they can maintain peace with India, though the situation over Kashmir
    is volatile. I'd like to see a democratic leadership there. Didn't Musharif
    (sp?) oust Nawaz Sharif and impose a miltary style rule over that country.
    Maybe Bhutto can make another run at it. I dunno.
    >Rwanda? Cuba?
    Contrary to the sentiments of the exiles in South Florida, I'd like to see
    us normalize relations with Cuba and foster a more beneficial situation to
    be in place when Castro finally kicks the bucket (around 2075 or so).
    Attack an ally? What have they done to us besides that ugly USS Liberty
    situation. I'd like to see them and Palestine get along better, but things
    don't look so good for that happening.
    >Tajikistan? China?
    China is a country to be watched closely. The situation with that plane a
    while back showed that even at the brink of conflict we were able to reason
    with them and Bush came out looking not too shabby. We should treat China as
    a nation which must earn our trust. I've got reservations about them. I'd
    certainly not want to come to blows with them, because the repercussions
    would be potentially catastrophic. Maybe over time the relationship will
    grow more amicable, but I'm wondering how the human rights situation is
    going over there.
    >Burma? In what order do you suggest the US issue
    >ultimatums and attack them? Ooops, I forgot a few: Haiti (double-ooops, I
    >forgot, we already did them. I'm sure Haiti is in great shape as a result.
    I'm not a big fan of humanitarian campaigns, though at least Haiti was
    important because of its closeness to our shores.
    >Does anyone know?), Uganda, Mali -- definitely Mali -- and then of course
    >the French are not quite as respectful as I'd like them to be... oh, and
    >Yemen and Ireland.
    >And the Basques, they sure have it coming, as well.
    >Maybe Germany, while we are at it, just a preemptive thing, of course...and
    >Berkeley. Hmmm, this has all kinds of possibilities. Maybe the US could
    >up a lottery, to determine which country gets it next.
    If we wind up tangling with Iraq again, hopefully that will be it for major
    military campaigns. Other terrorist harboring states might eventually become
    a consideration, though maybe minor special operations missions would
    suffice. As long as Hussein is in power, it seems we will need a continued
    presence in Saudi. Ousting him could allow us to eventually remove our
    troops, so it doesn't become another long-term South Korea type occupation.

    Did you notice that I said we should try giving Iran a second chance,
    opening relations with them, long severed after they took some of our people

    Oh, and I don't know if one could say we've targeted Afghanistan *per se*
    since we are working in cahoots with mujahideen against the Taliban and Al
    Quaeda. I'd like to see Afghanistan rise like a phoenix from the ashes of
    all the fighting they've seen over the years with Soviet occupation and the
    recent struggle over there. Maybe I'm too optimistic though.
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: []On Behalf
    > > Of Scott Chase
    > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:18 PM
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    > > Subject: conditional support for war on Iraq
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > If Bush et al decide, upon reasonable closure in the Afghanistan
    > > where the Al Quaeda are eliminated and an interim government put
    > > forth with
    > > the objective of bringing the ethnic factions together under one
    > > umbrella,
    > > and with clear objectives in mind for a campaign in Iraq, I would not be
    > > opposed.
    > >
    > > This campaign need not be immediate nor a full scale war, though I'm not
    > > eliminating this possibility. Forces should be amassed and ultimatums
    > > issued. There should be full inspections allowed throughout Iraq for
    > > whatever nefarious weapons programs Hussein might be backing.
    > > Failing this,
    > > the time for action will be obvious and hopefully our allies
    > > support us. The
    > > thorn in our side which has been festering all this time should
    > > be removed
    > > before it becomes too infectious to deal with in the future. Once
    > > closure is
    > > achieved conditions allowing the facilitation of a more friendly
    > > government
    > > in Iraq ready to be embraced by the community of the world should
    > > be put in
    > > place. Old wounds should be healed and the Iraqi people helped to
    > > get back
    > > on their feet.
    > >
    > > Upon closure in Iraq, the U.S. should plan on finally ending our
    > > presence in Saudi Arabia, ironically one of the issues that got bin
    > > all hot and bothered. Hopefully we can open relations with Iran,
    > > which has
    > > appeared to be a little less hostile, and give them a second
    > > chance, if our
    > > campaign in neighboring Iraq doesn't alienate them.
    > >
    > > If we have clear objectives set forth, failing stronger
    > > diplomatic pressures
    > > working beforehand, and a definite exit plan upon closure, I think I can
    > > support military action in Iraq.
    > >
    > > It's time to nip the problems in the bud before they become even
    > > worse and
    > > harder to manage later on in the ballgame. While we have
    > > momentum, we might
    > > as well get it over with.
    > >
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