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> "Dace" <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> Re: Definition pleaseDate: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:05:36 -0800
>From: Wade T. Smith
>> > How would we recognize a "memory" in the brain if we saw
>> > one? Moreover, how would we recognize its absence? In the
>> > sense that it's neither verifiable nor falsifiable, it fails to qualify
>> > as a scientific theory.
>> Sorry, but it's fairly well established, even scientifically, that
>> without a brain, memories don't happen. Recall is verifiable.
>What's verifiable is that a region of neurons is stimulated when a person
>reports the mental act of memory.
>I've already dealth with this point, Wade. That minds don't happen without
>brains means one of two things: 1. Minds are brains. 2. Minds are
>facilitated by brains.
>No one can say for sure it's the former. If it's the latter, then the
>reverse is equally true. Yes, brains make minds. But minds also make
>brains. We are self-determinative.
>> And we have 'seen' memories happen,
>And we have seen the Virgin Mary appear in the sky over Tijuana.
Our minds can choose to change our brains by infusing them with masses of pre-chosen memories which we believe, from a taste of their infodomain, it might benefit us to learn, usually with the help of expert teachers (those who already possess such knowledge/memories and ways to communicate them to us). This is generally known as getting an education, although if we choose to memorize the tenets of an untenable faith and place our self-concept and self-esteem behind believing such things, it could be known as self-programmed indoctrination or perhaps autobrainwashing.
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