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>From: Vincent Campbell <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: "'email@example.com'" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: RE: Study shows brain can learn without really trying
>Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:23:14 -0000
>You mean as in paying attention to what sources actually say as opposed to
>what you'd like them to be saying?
>BTW, having ended up in this kind of argument before (as Robin may
>remember), to answer a question from another of your posts, no I have never
>formally taken a class in psychology. Have you? I don't see how that
>relates to your claim at all- which was about conceptions of the
>unconscious_including_ the collective unconscious to the 20th century
>enlightenment. You don't need a certificate in anything to know that isn't
>true. I'm not even sure it makes sense; what is this 20th Century
>Enlightenment of which you speak?
You've neglected the new age "enlightenment".
Going back to notions previous to the 20th century, the unconscious is
noumenal like Kant's "ding an sich". In other words, what the heck is it
In case Ted objects:
(bq) "But the unconscious is merely noumenal and we have no immediate access
to it. It is as indirectly accessible as, for instance, matter, or nature as
a whole." [CG Jung from 27 February 1935 lecture as found on page 407 of
_Nietzsche's *Zarathustra*_ (volume one), Princeton University Press. 1988.
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