Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work

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Date: Mon Dec 03 2001 - 11:11:57 GMT

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    On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:18:28AM -0800, Dace wrote:
    > Robin:
    > > > Who says evolution is reducible to genetic mutation? The only thing we
    > can
    > > > say for sure is that organisms can't develop and species can't evolve
    > except
    > > > to the extent that they in some way retain forms and behaviors from
    > their
    > > > past.
    > >
    > > I've never formally studied genetics, or even biology, so I'll just
    > > say this: as I understand it, structures and behaviours are retained
    > > due to being genetically determined -- plus, of course, for sufficiently
    > > social and intelligent species, there's memetics. I'm quite confident in
    > > saying that no other mechanism is known, and I get the impression that
    > > practically everyone working in this and related areas believes that
    > > no other mechanism is required. Amateurs with bees in their bonnets,
    > > like you and Sheldon, have no credibility.
    > That's Sheldrake. He was director of graduate studies in cell biology at
    > Cambridge before retiring to pursue his own research projects full time.

    OK, I retract "amateur", in his case, even though I'm doubtful of the
    degree of overlap between cell and evolutionary biology. But I couldn't
    ever take anyone seriously who insists that learning precedes evolution,
    regardless of their background.

    Robin Faichney
    "One person's mess is another's complexity"
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