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On Monday, December 3, 2001, at 10:08 AM, Scott Chase wrote:
>> Evolutionary genes (replicators) and memes (also replicators)
>> are not the same as the physical entities that are usually their
>> instantiation. I am tending to see replicators as abstract entities
>> no causal role. In sum, they are bookkeeping entities, as Wimsatt once
> What about placeholders for future elaboration?
No. I believe that replicators are abstractions, and abstractions do not
have causal powers. What actually *happens* is thermodynamic transfer of
energy in the biology case and psychological and sociological
interaction in the cultural case. "Information" is just a way of
tracking and analysing data sets.
Kenneth, this goes for your friend's website (which, BTW, is a reworking
of stuff done by Brooks and Wiley, and which is, in my opinion, flawed
for the reason I give here).
-- John Wilkins Head Communication Services, The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, Melbourne Australia Personal page: <http://users.bigpond.com/thewilkins/darwiniana.html>
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