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> Like I said, that book ain't going to write on itself.
Yes, have i said anything different?
> And here- your definition covers vandalism, too-
Mutation in the meme-space is largely dependent on
humans actions. That was what i stated and i don't
know really what you're trying to argue.
> > You could rip out some of the buttons,
> Again, my keyboard will not do that by itself.
Have i said that?
> And, via software configurations, I can alter the layout of my
> keyboard to a Dvorak or a Japanese system. And this would not be
> mutation, this is the designed usage of the artefact.
> That the original creating artefacter has ceased to exist is
> irrelevant. The artefact itself exists.
> My storyteller point was
> that his story does not exist when he dies. No recording or
> memory of it exists.
> Oral history requires telling. And, since,
> in your explanation, cultural artefacts are the tools that
> transfer ideas, memes are not required.
My explanation is that memes are the tools for transferring ideas.
Cultural artefacts are one special case.
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