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> <The 20th century seems to have passed you right by.
> > The important distinction is that consciousness is something that
> > exclusively to the individual mind, while the unconscious is
> > embracing all of us. It's the set of instincts according to which every
> > human mind operates. Occupying a kind of twilight zone is the
> > subconscious
> > mind, which is individual despite being unconscious.>
> I don't know which 20th Century you lived in. I assume you're
> referring to the idea here of the collective unconscious? Not a very
> proposition outside of pro-Jungian psychoanalytical circles.
I'll admit my take is Jungian, but the reality of the unconscious,
collective or individual, is part and parcel of 20th century enlightenment,
every bit as fundamental as E=mc'd.
> Breathing is unconscious behaviour- our brain is regulating it
> making sure we do it, but we are not conscious of that process. But it is
> an individual thing. I do not breath because my species tells me to
Yes, you do. Breathing is universal to the species. It's a part of us that
follows from our species-identity as opposed to our individuality. Whether
the binding agent is morphic or genetic, we are defined collectively.
The funny thing is that the subject heading of this thread stems from an
article discussing the importance of the unconscious in learning.
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