Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying

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Date: Wed Nov 28 2001 - 23:59:01 GMT

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    >From: "Dace" <>
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    >Subject: Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying
    >Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:54:10 -0800
    > > > It's in the human unconscious that memes thrive.
    > > >That's their breeding ground and hiding place.
    > > >
    > > >Though the mind, by itself, is unreflective, the human mind is indeed
    > > >up in the context of self-referential mentality. This is not the case
    > > >animals. While chimps, et al, carry a germ of mental awareness, it
    > > >shape them in any profound way. "Subconscious" implies a mind that
    > > >under the weight of mental self-existence, not one that forms naturally
    > > >according to standard, biological pathways.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > Isn't the supposed "unconscious" based on one of those privative
    > > at its root when all is said and done (ie- the *not*concious is merely
    > > vast collection beyond what is conscious, whatever that last term may
    > > OTOH subconscious is that below cosciousness, not that this adds any
    > > clarity. Either term winds up being a catch all. Defining consciousness
    > > clearly would be a feat enough, so contrasting that which is either not
    > > conscious or below conscousness would be extremely difficult. Would the
    > > be the limit?
    >The 20th century seems to have passed you right by.
    >The important distinction is that consciousness is something that inheres
    >exclusively to the individual mind, while the unconscious is species-wide,
    >embracing all of us. It's the set of instincts according to which every
    >human mind operates. Occupying a kind of twilight zone is the subconscious
    >mind, which is individual despite being unconscious.
    [sarcasm mode on]

    Thanks for the clarification.

    [sarcasm mode off]

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