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>From: "Dace" <email@example.com>
>Subject: Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying
>Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:54:10 -0800
> > > It's in the human unconscious that memes thrive.
> > >That's their breeding ground and hiding place.
> > >
> > >Though the mind, by itself, is unreflective, the human mind is indeed
> > >up in the context of self-referential mentality. This is not the case
> > >animals. While chimps, et al, carry a germ of mental awareness, it
> > >shape them in any profound way. "Subconscious" implies a mind that
> > >under the weight of mental self-existence, not one that forms naturally
> > >according to standard, biological pathways.
> > >
> > >
> > Isn't the supposed "unconscious" based on one of those privative
> > at its root when all is said and done (ie- the *not*concious is merely
> > vast collection beyond what is conscious, whatever that last term may
> > OTOH subconscious is that below cosciousness, not that this adds any
> > clarity. Either term winds up being a catch all. Defining consciousness
> > clearly would be a feat enough, so contrasting that which is either not
> > conscious or below conscousness would be extremely difficult. Would the
> > be the limit?
>The 20th century seems to have passed you right by.
>The important distinction is that consciousness is something that inheres
>exclusively to the individual mind, while the unconscious is species-wide,
>embracing all of us. It's the set of instincts according to which every
>human mind operates. Occupying a kind of twilight zone is the subconscious
>mind, which is individual despite being unconscious.
[sarcasm mode on]
Thanks for the clarification.
[sarcasm mode off]
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