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On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 03:38:31PM -0500, Wade Smith wrote:
> If all you mean by imitation is that wheels all look alike,
> well, they don't.
Of course there are differences but they all work on the same
principle. That's what makes them wheels.
> They are all circular though (the ones that
> work), and if all you mean by imitation is that all wheels are
> circular, well, of course they are. They're wheels.
As you well know, there's more to a wheel than being circular. Only a
small subset of circular things are wheels.
> And if all
> you mean by imitation is that designers working on a wheel
> prototype have to draw a circle every time, well, I think the
> circle is a little more basic to design then that.
Designers not only have to draw a circle, they either have to start
with the idea of a wheel, or they have to reinvent it. I say that
in approximately 99.99% of cases (or more), they start with the idea,
in other words they do not originate, but imitate. Can you deny that?
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