Re: A Question for Wade

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Joe Dees"

    > > "Wade T.Smith"
    > >
    > >Hi Scott Chase -
    > >
    > >>What's so special about the "meme" term? Why can't we just use "idea",
    > >>"belief", or "concept" to say the same thing? As Ernst Mayr says of the
    > >>meme:
    > >>
    > >>(bq) "It seems to me that this word is nothing but an unnecessary
    > >>of the term "concept"." (eq)
    > >
    > >All of which and thus forced me to reconstruct my own thinking and remove
    > >all farce. The meme is a cultural artifact. Any other usage is erroneous
    > >and multiplicative.
    > >
    > Memes are not things, but meaningful patterns in which matter/energy
    is arranged. This is true whether we are talking about the meaningful sound
    patterns in which air is arranged to enunciate words, the meaningful
    geometrical patterns in which ink or pixels or pencil lead are arranged to
    write them, the meaningful action patterns out bodies enact in order to type
    or write or speak them, or the meaningful neuron/synapse activation patterns
    in which such representations are stored in our brains.

    Airwaves and pixels have no meaning intrinsic to them. It's only insofar as
    they're interpreted that they appear to have meaning. The actual location
    of meaning is always in the mind of the interpreter. As to patterns of
    synaptic transmission, these have meaning only insofar as the brain is the
    moment-to-moment materialization of the mind.


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