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> "Philip A.E. Jonkers" <firstname.lastname@example.org> email@example.com Re: Definition, PleaseDate: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:09:41 -0800
>> > > Is "What's up Doc?" memetic?
>> >I don't know what inspired you to suggest that but technically speaking,
>> >Go ask a kid, any kid (provided they can speak a little at least),
>> >if he or she knows that phrase. A 99 out of 100 chance he/she knows it.
>> >And if not, after you have uttered the slogan in front of that kid,
>> >it will stick to his little brain like flies on ...
>> >In fact, too make it a little more bolder, anything verbal is memetic
>> >by definition (and I mean anything), it's only the question how
>> >successful the slogan is or will be.
>> Some of us are better at resisting assimilation by the memetic Borg cube
>> than others :-)
>Ohmygod, I'm starting to blush right here. What in the devil's name is a
>> At best, *maybe* a slogan such as "What's up Doc?" qualifies at it rides
>> atop a verbal system, but assimilating the entirety of the verbal system or
>> language itself as memetic...what would the linguists think of this
>> assimilation (and is there going to be accomodation?)? Can they outrun the
>> cube before it's too late?
>I couln't really say (see above). Let me elaborate a little on what I mean.
>Literally anything that we say is memetic. Anything that can be captured in
>words (albeit one) can be passed on onto the next guy. It's that simple.
>If it can not be transmitted from person to person, it's not a meme. Since
>`anything' verbal can, `anything' has to be a meme by definition.
As is anything technological, for as anything that can be said can be heard and understood, anything that can be done can be shown, imitated and learned.
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