Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying

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Date: Mon Nov 26 2001 - 01:58:22 GMT

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    (From Kenneth)

    Hi Dace, Vincent,

    The following haunted me for a few days,

    Outside the context of
    > self-referential mentality, there can't be any self-propagating ideas.

    I don 't know, but the first thought I had about this sentence was, and what about the " subconsciousness " !? Are we pretty sure that it has a self- referentality structure !? Are we pretty sure that there are no self- propagating ideas in the subconscient levels of our minds !?

    Quite the opposite. It's in the human unconscious that memes thrive. That's their breeding ground and hiding place.

    Though the mind, by itself, is unreflective, the human mind is indeed built up in the context of self-referential mentality. This is not the case with animals. While chimps, et al, carry a germ of mental awareness, it doesn't shape them in any profound way. "Subconscious" implies a mind that forms under the weight of mental self-existence, not one that forms naturally according to standard, biological pathways.


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