Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id MAA10338 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:03:17 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:33:11 +0000 To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying Message-ID: <20011125113311.A11467@ii01.org> References: <20011124231732.AAA27509@firstname.lastname@example.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011124231732.AAA27509@email@example.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 06:17:32PM -0500, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> Hi Robin Faichney -
> >repetition of an observed behavioural pattern counts as imitation
> Yes - "The act, practice, or art of copying the manner or expression of
> But, can one just repeat an observed behavioral pattern?
Why would it have to be right first time?
> And I repeat, that _use_ is not imitation.
Of course it's not.
> >People don't reinvent the wheel -- they copy it.
> No, they _use_ it. This ain't nitpicking definitions- this is very basic.
> Use is not imitation. There is no need for me to copy a wheel every time
> I get on my bicycle, and, indeed, I am not _imitating_ anyone's behavior
> when I ride it.
So designers and manufacturers don't count in your cosmos?
> someone riding a bicycle, I would fall down, fast and hard- which, of
> course, I did, until I learned the skill set required to ride a bicycle.
> Handy, yes, that I saw someone ride one before I attempted to, but, not
> necessary- the skills of balance are inherent in the species.
But the idea of riding a bike is not.
-- "The distinction between mind and matter is in the mind, not in matter." Robin Faichney -- inside information -- http://www.ii01.org/
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