Fw: RE: Re: Wade's last week's phrase of the day...

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Sun Nov 11 2001 - 10:02:17 GMT

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
    To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:27 PM
    Subject: Re: RE: Re: Wade's last week's phrase of the day...

    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: <mcvjones@netscape.net>
    > Hi Mark,
    > You wrote,
    > > Just think how often we say to people, 'have an open mind,' we are
    > out time, they can not change, it is not their fault - their environment
    > closed them off...
    > << Yes, you are quit right here!
    > That is the same position which I do defend upon this list, but not only
    > their
    > environment is to blame, also their genetic, memetic, neurological,
    > logical, logical, idiological,.... lineages block their attempts to
    > The only times that people " change " is when they have brain- damage and
    > when they came back from the death ( near- death- experiences seem to
    > provoke profound changes).
    > But, yes, the overal environmental aspects, affects and effects blocked
    > them off. In a way we are all conditioned by the way we live, in which
    > social structure we live, what kind of political system our government
    > has to offer, etc... we are getting conditioned by all the kinds of infor-
    > mation which comes our way. The thing is ( of our brain/ our memes)
    > to leave the condition at its place. That is the only way by which we
    > can survive as an individualistic organism.
    > IMO, the ' group thing' is just another way of nature to give the organism
    > more chances to survive as an individual, not as a part of a greater form.
    > Individuality is the norm, not the group.
    > Best,
    > Kenneth

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