Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work...

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    Philip wrote:

    > The knowledge provided by systems such as astrology cannot be considered
    > genuine as its premises simply are false. Within the context of memetics,
    > what they actually have experienced is a feeding of their self-plexes.

    I take it you're refering to the memeplex we call "self." In other words,
    the ego. Not the actual self, which consists of reflexive consciousness,
    but the image of itself it conjures up. Mental self-awareness is a product
    of evolution. It has a natural history spanning millions of years. Only in
    the context of genuine self-existence could a fictional "self" be
    fabricated. Someone must hallucinate the hallucination.

    > What most people also do not seem
    > to realize, is that a big disadvantage of such misinforming systems is
    > that the recipients become reduced in their personal freedom as they
    > commit themselves to live their life in conformance with their star-sign,
    > tarot-cards and the like. They trade in their genereral talents [1] to
    > specialize in chasing dreams, or ghosts depending upon what perspective
    > you assume. In a dramatic sense their, also much cherished but illusory,
    > free-will (which, in a strict sense, is a fallacy anyway) is shattered
    > to smitherines (even more).

    Do you imagine that scientists have disproven free-will? No more so than
    tarot readers and astrologers, who also take it on faith that all is
    determined, every fate tucked away in its 4-D slot. In the case of science
    or superstition, the pursuit of security promotes a belief that the world is
    pre-planned, that the future, in a sense, already exists. There's an
    obsession with seeing what will happen next. It's all about prediction.
    What's desired isn't knowledge exactly but foreknowledge. Determinism, be
    it astrological, Calvinist, or Newtonian, feeds on our fear of uncertainty.
    It persists despite the fact that the whole issue was swept away nearly 80
    years ago when deterministic mechanics gave way to the probabilism of
    quantum mechanics. It lives on only memetically, not logically. While
    memes can proliferate on the basis of logic, there's nothing to stop them
    from exploiting our fears to get themselves ingrained in our thinking.


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