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Physiologically, I thought it was basically all down to the positioning and
size of the voicebox, which is pretty clear, (although wasn't there
something recently about deer who have very similar throat structures to
us?) but the intellectual differences needed for complex communication are
more difficult to work out- after all we've no genetic information available
from our immediate ancestors that might indicate the areas of change to
focus on, only those areas of difference between us and apes.
<In other words, if language is truly cultural, as a lot of
> should-not-be-academic romantics like us to believe, then there really
> should not be many physiological differences between humans and primates.>
Who could you be referring to here? :-)
I think there's a difference between saying language capability is
genetic, and the form of language is genetic, e.g. the grammar etc., which
is what Chomksy argued. I thought that studies of self-invented sign
language amongst the poor deaf kids of (.... I don't recall where it was),
showed that their untaught sign languages consisted of grammatical
structures similar to many languages, had more or less shown Chomsky was
right? Ot at least was thought to by some.
PS, to our American friends- can we have our Prime Minister back
please? We know he's quite liked over there, but it's all gone to hell over
here whilst he's been playing diplomacy (e.g. the Scottish First Minster
resigning over a financial scandal; Northern Ireland Assembly members
shoving each other in an extremely feeble way.
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