RE: Thesis: Memes are DNA-Slaves

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    > > Blackmore's). However, it is a hard to maintain the viewpoint
    > > that memes are slaves of genes or vice versa, as the
    > > co-evolution has somewhat flatted down or perhaps is slowly
    > > reversing (now this *is* my hypothesis, posted some 2 months ago).
    > well i agree.
    > i just found it annoying reading things like meme were enemies of dna
    > or they had a different independent evolution. i also believe that
    > dna and memes influence each other but i don't think that they work
    > against eachother.

    They can even do that. Take celibacy memes or memes that propagate
    homosexuality, or the highly actual suicide-bomber memes for
    example. Surely cherishing such memes does not
    do much good to your *own* genes. It's not true that genes and
    memes live separate lives by having two independent evolutions.
    This is prohibited as both share the same turf, the human brain;
    genes build the near-blanc brain (hardware), memes fill it up
    (software). Memes might favor certain kind of brain-building
    genes (memes guiding genes). Conversely, a particular
    brain might limit its memetic input to certain classes of memes
    (genes guiding memes). My intuition
    (that tricky trait) says the former dominates, the latter
    therefore requires an example: religious brains violently
    jettisone atheist memes but warmly welcome spiritual and
    metaphysical ones.
    Anyway, genes and memes are therefore hopelessly tied to
    each-other evolutionary-wise, this is the much referenced
    gene-meme co-evolution. The gene-meme correlation can
    be either positive or negative, however, depending on the
    phenomenon at hand.



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