RE: state of memes

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    Thanks Vincent for the welcome.
    Unfortunately now that I am looking forward to the discussion I very
    suddenly have to leave for a job till the end of the month. I'm a forester
    and need to cruise a large track of land so I won't come out of the wood
    in northern New Hampshire till the end of the month. So if you don't hear
    anymore from me, it's not because I'm not interested :)


    At 12:50 PM 10/3/2001 +0100, you wrote:
    >Hi Joachim,
    >Welcome to the list.
    >On TV in the UK last night was the first in a three part documentary about
    >the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West, that used taped recordings of
    >police interviews with Fred West. Anyway, on hearing this man's very flat
    >and largely unemotional description of cutting the head off the body of one
    >of his daughters (who he'd raped, tortured and murdered) so she'd fit in the
    >hole in the back garden he'd dug, I got a sense of what I believe has been
    >referred to as the banality of evil.
    >You're quite that the demons of our modern world, be they serial killers,
    >members of genocidal regimes, or terrorists, are usually banal, everyday
    >people outside of the acts they commit, able to hold down jobs, have
    >families, friends etc. etc.
    >Memes are a gloriously interesting starting point for many our list
    >discussions, and honestly we do try to stick to memetics at least some of
    >the time. The trouble with a multi-discipinary subject is that there's lots
    >of ground to make up between all the different contributing disciplines, and
    >that does lead us off topic on occasion.
    > > ----------
    > > From: Joachim Maier
    > > Reply To:
    > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2001 10:00 am
    > > To:
    > > Subject: Re: state of memes
    > >
    > >
    > > >Care to explain who HAMAS and HizbAllah are? Nice people one would invite
    > >
    > > >over for tea?
    > >
    > > Very likely they are. The top Nazis apparently were very charming company.
    > >
    > > I just talked to a former foreign service employee who told me that a top
    > > guy responsible for the Tutsi massacre in Rwanda was at her house for
    > > dinner shortly before the massacre began. She wondered out loud how he
    > > could have been so at ease plotting the slaughter of hundreds of thousands
    > >
    > > of people.
    > >
    > > Schwaeble
    > > PS
    > > I'm new to this list, and new to the idea of memes. This is very
    > > interesting stuff :)

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