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Hi Salice, Philip,
Just a quick intermezzo,
Nothing says that the zillion try- outs didn 't created universes somewhere
The only we grasp is the one we see around us.
The right universe as you say here in the post is the right for us.
Nothing contradicts the possibility that a zillion universes exit out there
for a whole bunch of other " us-ses ".
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Jonkers <P.A.E.Jonkers@phys.rug.nl>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Thesis: Memes are DNA-Slaves
> Quoting salice <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
> > > Memes will dispurse themselves from their biological container and
> > > will live their lives in a memosphere- like environment
> > maybe we already live in a memosphere. i mean if you look at the
> > physical universe, atoms, electrons and so on follow certain rules.
> > like gravity, energy relations. simple rules. this rule is an
> > information. it lies beneath matter. so who made up this rule and
> > created these memes which are the basic rules for our universe?
> > is the universe then to be imagined as a big brain with a simple meme
> > controlling it's basic behavior? or is it just that the universe
> > works the way we think, the way that memes tell us.
> > so is the possibility there that actually we created the universe in
> > our head?
> Think of this way: if the parameters of the universe, gravitational
> constant, speed of light, interaction strenghts of weak force
> and strong force, were to change only slightly, the universe
> would collapse. The parameters `in use' give the universe a
> very delicate stability. Since we're boldly speculating now.
> Try this: The consensus is that our universe began with a Big Bang.
> Prior to the birth of our universe,
> suppose the parameters of the universe were chosen with
> random values. A certain choice of parameters would
> usually be fruitless in that the resulting baby universe would
> not be vital enough to survive and plunge back into a Big Crunch.
> This may have occurred a zillion times, generating zillion
> of tiny spot universes, until .... the randomly
> generated parameters were given the right values. That is, they
> had the values we have in our current universe. Stability ensued
> and our universe evolved...
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