RE: Thesis: Memes are DNA-Slaves

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Date: Sat Sep 29 2001 - 17:15:33 BST

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    Quoting salice <>:

    > > What scale would explain coming to the aid of a whale or other wild
    > animal
    > > in distress? I watched a program recently where a whale was in
    > distress and
    > > a bunch of people got together to help it and it was then sent to a
    > water
    > > park for rehabilitation. *Why* (in the evolutionary sense of the word)
    > would
    > > someone consider the plight of sea turtles a serious concern? Would
    > > inclusive fitness or reciprocal altruism fit the bill here?
    > i dont know on dna-level, maybe these
    > people share some genes with the distressed whale. they could also
    > get money from tourists in the water park. on the meme level i mean
    > you saw them on tv, if they wouldnt have saved the whale you wouldnt
    > have seen them. it's just some kind of humor. but it makes you think
    > so there's some meme business happening no matter how stupid it
    > looks.
    > i dont know like many people feel sad when they see a dead bird on
    > the street but have no problem killing spiders or other insects.
    > maybe there is some dependence or just cultural learned belief.

    It's likely we share more than 30-40 percent with any mammal.
    Yet it doesn't prevent us from slaying cows and sheep. Why?
    They don't genetically overlap with our genes enough to
    recognize them as genetic soul-mates.
    We want food, therefore we kill `em.
    Hell, there are scores of people killing (or eating) other
    people who have 99.9 % over their genes in common!

    The key words needed to describe the above charitable actions,
    I maintain, is interspecific altruism brought about by and for
    culture. See my previous postings...



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