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> > > What scale would explain coming to the aid of a whale or other wild
> > > in distress? I watched a program recently where a whale was in
> > > a bunch of people got together to help it and it was then sent to a
> > > park for rehabilitation. *Why* (in the evolutionary sense of the
> > > someone consider the plight of sea turtles a serious concern?
> > > inclusive fitness or reciprocal altruism fit the bill here?
> >i dont know on dna-level, maybe these
> >people share some genes with the distressed whale. they could also
> >get money from tourists in the water park. on the meme level i mean
> >you saw them on tv, if they wouldnt have saved the whale you wouldnt
> >have seen them. it's just some kind of humor. but it makes you think
> >so there's some meme business happening no matter how stupid it
> >i dont know like many people feel sad when they see a dead bird on
> >the street but have no problem killing spiders or other insects.
> The Jainists have taken respect (or reverence?) for animal to a level
> not seen except for the hardcore vegans and animal rights fols (such as
> found amongst the hard-core of PETA). How does one explain the ethical
> concerns of Jainists and animal rights activists or those of
> conservationists (IMO not to be equated with animal rights activists)
> rally behind endangered and threatened species? What in the Environment
> Evolutionary Adaptedness would predispose someone toward going to these
> lengths of helping non-kin who probably won't reciprocate?
> I'd splat a housefly, but would leave a dragonfly, butterfly or ladybug
> alone. I've learned to accept the presence of spiders at a young age,
> I fear a bite from a black widow or brown recluse.
> >maybe there is some dependence or just cultural learned belief.
> If humans as primates should have prepared fears for snakes, how does
> account for the snakes as pets industry? Some people really love their
> snakes. While working on a sea turlte project as side job we had was
> catching reptiles and amphibians to identify, measure and release. I got
> over my fear (innate or learned) of snakes pretty quick. Getting bit by
> rat snake wasn't all that bad of an experience. I have a respect for
> after handling several with varying dispositions, ranging from the
> bite-at all-costs black racers to the docile scarlet snakes.
Memetics provides an answer: I dub it interspecific altruism
meant to increase one's own cultural fitness (apart from
the animal subjects). See one of my previous postings...
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