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----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Dawkins was right all along
> Hi Wade,
> I get your point now and I agree on it as far that beliefs can only be
> from others. I see other possibilities rising, but those are due to my
> personal agenda.... memes in genes remerber.
> Propensities to belief certain beliefs would in that view be part of our
> tic and memetic built up, but that is of no relevance to this topics.
> That is, propensities to believe in the Christian God would be already in
> it is just due to what the others learn you or not, that those things will
> emerge or not.
> But like I said, that has nothing to do with the topics here, so I shut
> Best regards,
> ( I am, because we are) hopefully back, thanks Ted
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wade T.Smith <email@example.com>
> To: memetics list <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Dawkins was right all along
> > >If a child is learned to have no beliefs,
> > That ain't what I said. I said a child begins with no beliefs, and, no
> > reason to form any.
> > A belief (which word, again, I _only_ use in the sense of an unsupported
> > declaration of a mechanism of the universe, if you will, like gods and
> > homeopathy and 'vote democrat') can only be learned from others
> > with an agenda to stop you from discovering real things), because, if
> > studies the universe, unbiasedly, like a child will do, one can only
> > discover facts, and facts lead to theories, and theories lead to
> > experiment and verification, and verification leads to a 'pretty sure
> > this is how things work' declaration, not an 'I believe the qi was
> > blocked'.
> > >You can't believe in nothing, if you do... you do believe !!
> > Belief should have nothing to do with it.
> > - Wade
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