RE: Dawkins was right all along

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Date: Tue Sep 25 2001 - 11:53:04 BST

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    >> Surely, Wade was simply making a joke.

            <Humor is one of the commonest ways of evading a serious point.>

            Or of pointing to the absurdity of the comments that precede the
    humourous comment.

    >> Citing Jesus and children is not wise given the absence of
    >> information in Christianity of Jesus' childhood. Why is there
    this absence?
    >> Because he would have been brought up as a Jew, and you can't
    have that in
    >> Christian doctrine.

            <At the time the gospels were written there would have been no way
    > find out anything about the period before he started to act strangely
    > and therefore memorably.>
            So, what about all the star of bethlehem stuff? There's a huge
    inconsistency in the accounts of Jesus' life from the lead up to his birth,
    and then his actions as an adult. There's not even an account of his
    barmitzvah (I assume that they did that back then).

            <Wade said that religion commonly denies childhood. My point is
    > doesn't seem to be the case for Christianity.>
            As he said, in the sense that childhood curiosity is denied in
    favour of every answer stemming from God, he is right. Christianity is as
    bad as every other religion in that regard.

    >> (<"The distinction between mind and matter is in the mind,
    not in
    >> matter.">
    >> Except that, without any matter there'd be no mind.)

            <Where's the contradiction?>

            In the presumption of a distinction between mind and matter that
    could exist only in the mind, when the mind must, by being in the universe,
    be composed of matter.


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