Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA04361 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:38:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:26:41 +0100 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Dawkins was right all along Message-ID: <20010924112641.G1098@ii01.org> References: <20010923050331.AAA26382@email@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010923050331.AAA26382@firstname.lastname@example.org>; from email@example.com on Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 01:03:30AM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 01:03:30AM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> Hi Bill Spight -
> >Anyway, learning is not necessary. :-)
> Non sequitur. A belief is a learned behavior, especially when taking your
> definition into play. It's only when one speaks the truth that
> remembering is unnecessary, to paraphrase S. Clemens.
So we don't need to remember facts?
Clemens meant that that we have to do much more remembering when spinning
a tissue of lies, than in simply recounting what we honestly believe.
Your interpretation is off the wall, and driven, I'd suggest, like your
other deviations, by the emotionality of your attitude to religion.
You need to get some detachment. Meditation might help.
> To speak to the doubters of atheism (or science) from infancy, a child
> will examine to a cause, if it can, not create a fairy tale.
Kids can spin great yarns. But I'll agree it takes an adult to make a
"true believer", in ordinary religion or in militant atheism, the anti
religion. It takes time for the memes to gain such a strong hold.
-- Robin Faichney "True believers are pathetic memetic victims -- they need our sympathy" http://www.ii01.org/
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