Re: Dawkins was right all along

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    >From: "Wade T.Smith" <>
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    >Subject: Re: Dawkins was right all along
    >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:50:46 -0400
    >Hi Bill Spight -
    > >Please show how learning is, by definition, necessary for belief, using
    > >the dictionary definition.
    >A belief is "Something believed or accepted as true, especially a
    >particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons."
    >I fail to see how believing tenets accepted by a group of persons is not
    >a learned behavior.
    >But, really, semantics and definitions aside, religion _is_ a learned
    >behavior. Period. It is not innate. Acting as the agent of a religion is
    >a learned behavior. Period. It is not innate. Accepting rewards in an
    >afterlife is a belief, and beliefs are tenets held _without evidence_.
    >Learned tenets.
    >Explain how one gets tales of an afterlife without being taught same.
    There could be an innate or heritable underbelly to the generation of
    religious belief, whether adaptive or non-adaptive. OTOH, there might not be
    such an innate bias. I guess it depends on whether there's a "God module" or

    Any adaptiveness to such a bias would not justify religion in itself, a
    distinction averting a plunge into the sticky realm of the so called
    naturalistic fallacy.

    Aside from a putative predisposing underbelly, the beliefs in religions are
    probably learned. The beliefs themselves, as ideas, could not be inherited
    in the genetic sense.

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