RE: US Tragedy

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Date: Wed Sep 19 2001 - 15:21:50 BST

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    Greetings to all,
    I'm back in Washington. The government discussion here is on the whole
    narrowly chauvinistic and militaristic. A memetic analysis will be
    interesting and useful. If there is any war afoot, it must surely be one of
    memes. Memetically, things are still in flux; support for the administration
    is patriotic, rather than political. We are offered an opportunity for
    applied memetics, and given the gravity of the situation and its
    implications for the future, the need for an effective memetic application.

    All thoughts would be very welcome.


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: []On Behalf Of
    > Scott Chase
    > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:38 PM
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    > Subject: RE: US Tragedy
    > >From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <>
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    > >Subject: RE: US Tragedy
    > >Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:38:27 -0400
    > >
    > >Vincent, Philip -- many thanks.
    > >
    > >Drove past the Pentagon this morning early still smoking badly. How much
    > >more real to see it in person than on the little screen. And by
    > coincidence
    > >this afternoon I'll be driving past Manhatten and will see the
    > new skyline
    > >there, two teeth missing like a prize fighter that has taken a beating.
    > >
    > >News media and politicicos still not asking 'why' this happened, so the
    > >lessons are unlikely to be learned and the situation ripe for further
    > >incidents of terrorism. Alas. I am going to try and prod 'why' questions
    > >and
    > >discussion.
    > >
    > >Back in a few days.
    > >
    > >
    > Really important questions would be *who* the responsible parties
    > were and
    > *where* their associates are now. It seems fingers are pointing
    > toward bin
    > Laden.
    > I'm dumbfounded. I talked to a friend who lives in New York last
    > night and
    > was so happy just to hear his voice. It took him 8 hours to get home from
    > work. He wasn't in the middle of it. I can't even imagine what the people
    > with loved ones who were injured or killed due to the terrorist
    > attacks on
    > NY and DC are dealing with right now.
    > Why questions could, if Islamic jihad terrorists are indeed responsible,
    > involve US policies toward Israel over the years and our military
    > involvements in Iraq among other things. I was trying to be
    > moderate on the
    > Israel-Palestine issue before these incidents. I was even thinking
    > critically toward Israel. Now I'm gravitating toward Israel.

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