RE: US Tragedy

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: []On Behalf Of
    > Kenneth Van Oost
    > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:39 PM
    > To:
    > Subject: Re: US Tragedy
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Lawrence DeBivort <>
    > > Drove past the Pentagon this morning early still smoking badly. How much
    > > more real to see it in person than on the little screen. And by
    > coincidence
    > > this afternoon I'll be driving past Manhatten and will see the
    > new skyline
    > > there, two teeth missing like a prize fighter that has taken a beating.
    > > News media and politicicos still not asking 'why' this happened, so the
    > > lessons are unlikely to be learned and the situation ripe for further
    > > incidents of terrorism. Alas. I am going to try and prod 'why' questions
    > and
    > > discussion.
    > Hi Lawrence,
    > I don 't want to rip up more wounds, but I think the next will be of
    > interest of how people, like me reflects on what happened.
    > I did follow up CNN the last couple of days, and it seems to me that
    > it turns this tragedy into a show.
    > Breaking News, at about six o 'clock this evening, local time, was the
    > announcement that the NY police department did not need more
    > volunteers. Therefor they interrupted an interview with an ex- general
    > on how to invade Afghanistan.
    > I wonder, this seems strange to me. I understand that each tiny bit
    > of information is of some importance to someone somewhere but
    > this seems odd.
    > This reminds me of one other interview which I saw this week with
    > an American woman living in Brussels, who calls this kind of beha-
    > vior " childish, playful and naive. "
    > She sees this troughout the American society.
    > This grasped my attention.
    > Could the fact that Americans show such a behavior not be linked
    > to the fact that "Americans do not have a history " !?
    > Let me explain, in a sense, here in Europe we all lived such events,
    > WO I and WO II by which Germany get the blame and the trauma,
    > Belgium had the Dutroux- affair, England the death of Lady Diana.
    > These are only the recent examples, but our history is full of such
    > events.
    > America had only three, recently, Pearl Harbor, JFK and WTC.
    > In a way, in historic time, America is still in its infancy and the people
    > acts accordingly.
    > If America can' t get it, noone will and if somebody has what America
    > wants they will take it....
    > This is IMO, yes indeed childish behavior and than there are two
    > possibilities, it makes you popular or it does not, most of the
    > time, not !
    > And children behaving like that on the schoolyard don 't have many
    > friends. They think they do, (NATO !?), but bullies always get what
    > they deserve.
    > That is of course no way to see things, I understand, but in the context
    > of this list of some importance.
    > In my mind there is no doubt that people get memetical determiniated
    > by the way they live, I posted this view this week, so couldn 't it not
    > be that American folks in contrast with Europeans are still, on some
    > memetical scale, in their infancy !?
    > It seems to me, watching CNN all the time, that Americans can 't
    > grasp the fact that they did something, somewhere to somebody wrong.

    The news media are cowardly running dogs.

    > And this seems to fit in the general picture of the child- analogy.
    > A bully turns always things upside down. He is not the blame, it is
    > always the others who don 't understand the way by which he behaves.
    But this describes all sides and factions. The rest of us are simply trapped
    in the middle!

    > What do you think !?
    > Hope I did not offend you, or others, in any way;
    > Regards,
    > Kenneth
    > ( I am, because we are)
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