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I'd agree here. An indicator of steps from non-cultural to cultural must
include proto-cultural behaviours like you say.
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> Dear Vincent,
> > Of course whether fish really have culture or memes is, I suspect, a
> > of some contention.
> Hmmm. I wonder if it is possible to have memes without culture.
> I know, I know, memes are defined as building blocks of culture, so the
> notion of a meme without culture is meaningless. Or is it?
> Isn't it possible to have patterns of behavior that are reproduced via
> imitation, are varied and subject to selection, without their combining
> in a superstructure that we call culture? Why not? The imitation of mate
> preferences in guppies seems a good candidate for such.
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