Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id CAA00203 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:45:06 +0100 From: <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:49:12 -0500 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Design Message-ID: <3B856C48.17832.B487C4@localhost> In-reply-to: <002d01c12c02$16bb1280$a586b2d1@teddace> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On 23 Aug 2001, at 11:33, Dace wrote:
> > On 08/21/01 14:23, Dace said this-
> > >That the design comes about blindly and unconsciously through
> > >mutation
> > >natural selection doesn't make it any less of a design.
> > In fact, it makes it _not_ a design at all. And that is the point.
> > - Wade
> I'm using the term in the sense of "a preliminary sketch or outline
> showing the main features of something to be executed" or "an
> underlying scheme that governs functioning, developing, or unfolding"
> (Webster's). What makes neo-Darwinism so attractive is that it keeps
> the design while disposing of the designer. This way, we can imagine
> we've had some sort of radical break from our superstitious past while
> covertly maintaining the same comforting belief. It's the old
> *somewhere-something's-in-charge* meme.
Actually, the template is indeed 'designed' by having various
mutations to precursors of it subjected to the winnowings of natural
(environmental) selection; what is jettisoned is the idea that this
gradual ecological biospheric self-sculpting involves a conscious
> This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
> Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
> For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
> see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Fri Aug 24 2001 - 02:49:48 BST