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Due to a lot of work I will answer any post in a proper way at a later date.
Thanks for the understanding !
This does not mean I will step back, I just don 't have the time right now
to engage myself into a discussion at depth.
I will be back, I hope with the weekend.
I will keep track....
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From: Dace <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Kenneth wrote:
> > > Environmental selection was/is
> > > acted upon us by external agencies, they influence(d) something. That
> > > has always been the tricky part, isn 't it !? Influenced by what,
> > > emotions, environmental constrains and restrains !? Selected by what
> > > !? Pressures !? Which ones, Joe !? Emotions, constrains and restrains
> > >
> > Influenced by CONTIGUOUS (that's touching) environmental
> > situations, ones that are obsevable, describable and measurable,
> > not by some frigging woo-woo seance-master drawing-down-the-mo-
> > -jo astral fantasy line.
> What's with this obsession with contiguous causation? Contact mechanics
> disappeared from physics in the 19th century. There's no contact
> in the orbits of the planets. There's no contact mechanics in the
> transmission of signals across electromagnetic fields. What Sheldrake and
> Goodwin are trying to do, in their different ways, is to bring biology up
> date with physics. Faraday was considered a nut until Maxwell came along
> and proved his theory mathematically. Physics has already undergone the
> painful transition to uncertainty and chaos. Unfortunately, biology has
> been slower to adapt to the new, more demanding terrain.
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