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On 18 Aug 2001, at 21:01, Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
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> > Wrongo, boyo; when those sheep genes were injected in that
> > empty ovum and Dolly resulted, that's what logical, rational and
> > reasonable people (excluding enthralled memebots) would consider
> > proof. God-juice, on the other hand, has never been isolated, much
> > less employed. That you would equate these to demonstrates a level
> > of naivete that education may be unable to overcome, or else a
> > willful disregard for facts that your morphic filter squeams at.
> << Yes, but what " real science " did not exept to find was that Dolly
> got the symptoms after some time of a much older sheep !! Dolly was
> never young, she was born old !! Where do you place now the genetic
> absoluteness !? Circumstancial again !?
No, the fact that older genes would be expected to have suffered
more breaks and degradations of information. Remember that a lot
of the trials did not succeed in growing a clone at all. And Dolly
WAS born young, as a lamb, with sexual characteristics as of yet
undeveloped; she just, due to the genetic degradation one might
expect in an older cell, aged more quickly, and in keeping with the
way older celles will (multiple breaks tend to reinforce errors in a
synergistic fashion and combat genetic informational redundancy).
> IMO, the genes where Dolly was created out had already worn out.
> You can 't make something young was old by beginning.
> Genes did not fold up correctly in a sense, they fold up in an already
> over time changed expressinal manner. Did anyone look for expressed
> acquired characteristics/ behavior by Dolly !? I suspect not.
I'm sure that she didn't demonstrate acquired characteristics
flowing through morphic fields from the donor sheep, if that's what
you're Lamarckianly intimating.
> ( I am, because we are)
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