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> The meme for genetic determinism is nested
> > within the meme for deterministic thinking in general, which is nested
> > within the meme for nature-as-machine, which is nested within the meme
> > anthropomorphosis. That is, we tend to project ourselves onto nature.
> > modern times, this manifests in a projection of human technology onto
> > nature. The idea that nature has a machine-like predictability has
> > to resurrect the ancient meme of "fate," which has since manifested in
> > of genetics.
> << Very good point !!
> Mine exactly and the one which why I still doubt the absoluteness of
> genetic determinism according to the heritable aspect of the concept.
> It could be all a case of memetic- like nesting.
> Wade, I think, wrote once, Darwin dangerous idea would be just that
> we ought to think that his idea is the right way to follow.
> But Darwin 's idea came from out a human perspective ( descriptive) and
> perhaps this not what Nature intented.
> > I've never tried to apply the morphic model to memes before. This
> > certainly better than the post I fired off last night under the heading
> > "morphic memes." Definitely a work in progress.
> << My first steps in memetics were inspired by the notion of the morphic
> model. In a sense you can 1_ switch memes for morphic fields and vice
> versa and 2_ see memes as the neurological outcome of the working of
> morphic fields.
> ( I am, because we are) back to we started from
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