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> Hi all,
> Something to help Dace in order to keep his cool,
> > Genes do not appear to contain instructions for the folding of proteins.
> > The very concept of "genetic instruction" is speculative. There is, as
> > no evidence to bolster it. Nucleic acid chains produce amino acid
> << What about the search into ' stemcells' !?
> Bush did give his fiat to do tests with these cells in order to fight
> Like Dace said, we do not yet know how cells fold up in the way they do
> and why they do it that way, despite the efforts of list members to prove
> otherwise. We do not yet known what makes a key a key and what
> makes a lock a lock.
> Saying it otherwise seems to indicate 2 things, one, the persons involved
> saying they know, knows about evidence where noone seems to know
> about and two, or that the persons involved themselves lack the knowledge
> and hypothise.
> Making up conclusions about things which are not yet explained in detail,
> (there was not even granted permission to use such cells ( not in all
> for investigations) is IMO trying to get the other(s) give up their search
> in what seems to me a good model to grasp memetics in its full.
> Giving now the opportunity to search why and how cells fold up in the
> way they do is IMO very important for memetics, not in the least to me
> In a sense we gonna finally be able to determine if memes are involved
> in the making of genes or not.
> If 1_ memes are functions of genes or 2_ if memes are inheritable by
> offspring or not will be determined there, once and for all.
> And in a way, the future of memetics hangs in the balance with what
> scientists come up with.
> If stemcells are basicly ' virginal ' and they are able to grow in the 40
> weeks of pregnancy in about 200 cellspieces which combined together
> make up one baby ( braincells/ bloodcells/ skincells etc) well one, we
> will be surprised and two we will be able to see if all our theories will
> fold up correctly.
> But we are a long way from setting up cultures of cells in labo 's in
> order to breed cells which will make up our brain or muscle tissue !!
> Best regards,
> ( I am, because we are) one more step closer
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